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on the table a proposal that reduces the deficit by $4 trillion, that does so in a balanced way, that includes substantial cuts to discretionary non-defense spending, over $1 trillion, it includes revenue and includes $340 billion in savings from our health care entitlement programs. >> fairly unequivocal, isn't it? it's a mixture of pretty substantial spending cuts and tax increases. >> we haven't seen the plan. i haven't seen the plan. i don't think the speaker -- >> are you accusing the president of lying? is the president lying? >> where is the plan? >> is he lying? >> i don't think the plan's out there. i think jay carney might be but i don't see the plan. maybe they have a plan. >> jay carney is lying and he's the white house spokesman. >> no. >> they're lying, are they? >> i'm not saying that. piers, maybe they've got -- >> you just did. you just called him a liar. >> they haven't shared the plan with the american people. paul ryan and the republicans in congress have passed twice now and last year -- excuse me, two years ago as well, a ten year plan for a budget that deals with the ten
" and he joins me now. thanks for being with us now. we appreciate it. you compare the deficit to an insurance policy. you say it doesn't make you any richer in the short-term, but in the long-term, it is helpful. i want to actually put your statements up. you say let's agree to keep deficits very high for at least another year. and then let's buy an insurance policy against that debt crisis when we can really afford it. so lots of republicans and democrats out there would disagree greatly with you. say that america's ability to pay its debt is really important. how would you respond to them? >> right. i do think that there's a thing that's taken place in washington deficit reduction will stimulate us to enormous growth in 2013. the fact is what deficit reduction is, is tax increases and spending cuts, both of which take economic activity out of the economy. so this really is extremely similar to insurance. if i buy, say, flood insurance. what i'm doing is i'm paying a short premium in the short-term, to protect my house in the long-term. that's exactly what deficit reduction i
approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in our panel. mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hot air.com and fox news contributor. peter mirijanian former advisor to the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman campaigns. when the president arrives at the white house to speak, he will have people behind him, ordinary americans who reached out to the white house and want their $2,000 middle class tax cut preserved. republicans are saying this is essentially a campaign stunt, a campaign appearance kind of event of the he won the election. he should get on the business of governing. what do you say? >> well, one quick observation, jon. i think what you're seeing, what i think is interesting the first social media presidency. this administration using technology and using social media to advance their agenda. but look, all presidents do this. george w. bush after his re-election famously said he has now the political capital he intend to use. so going to the public and going sort of over the head of congress is something democratic and republican presidents always do what they
, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity without major spending cuts and entitle 347b9 reforms we will continue running a huge deficit regardless of what anyone does on either side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be 8$850 billon year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of things, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so far, he hasn't put
senator pat toomey from pennsylvania. he was a member of the deficit reduction super committee last year that failed to agree on a plan. but he's been talking about this issue for a long, long time. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> we just learned that president obama will be traveling to your backyard on friday to talk about the fiscal cliff and spending, and traveling to pennsylvania right now. is this a welcome visit as far as you're earned? >> as far as i'm concerned the president of the united states is always welcome in my state of pennsylvania. we welcome the president and look forward to his message, and i have some questions i'd like to-ish i hope he addresses. >> what questions? >> first of all the president seems absolutely determined to inflict a tax increase on the american people. two years ago he signed a bill that extended the current tax rates for two more years because he said the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in a weak economy. today the economy is weaker than it was two years ago. why in the world does he want to inflict that damage now? >> senato
on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so we can invest in training, education, science, and research. now, i know some of this may sound familiar to you because we talked a lot about this during the campaign. this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential campaign and in congressional campaigns all across the country and a clear majority of americans, not just democrats but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. and i'm glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. the senate's already passed a bill that keeps income taxes from going up
to reduce the long-term deficit, that requires a combination of cuts. it also means asking high income individuals to pay a little bit more. that was a key issue in the campaign. all the exit polls show the american people are on the president's side. the only people who appear to be totally deaf to that are some of the congressional leaders in the republican house and senate. so i think it's important that the president get out and talk to the american people. this is part of the national conversation. this is a very important moment, and so it's important even as the president talks to congressional leaders and he had them down to the white house and continues to be in contact with them, he should engage the american public in this very important national conversation. >> let me ask you, you have a couple of senate republicans who have come out again grover norquist and any kind of notion of a pledge or being held to a lobbyist as opposed to the american people. on the left you have some progressives who are concerned that too many concessions will be made with social security, medic
. so the biggest problem created the deficit that we have, the fiscal cliff that we're falling over is on spending. so this preoccupation with talking about taxes is talking about the smaller of the two problems that are causing the deficit. >> right. when you have a negotiation that's going on although the moment, 72% of americans according to the cnn poll believe obama and the gop should compromise to get thing off a cliff. we have to give and we see the difference ideologically, but in all kinds of tixie deductions and so on and a flat income tax increase on wealthy americans. what's the ideological difference. wealthier people pay a little more tax. >> it's not a ideological difference. what can raise the money most efficiently and effectively to create economic growth that's going to create jobs for people. one of the things i talked about during the campaign was cutting the corporate tax for manufacturing. you want to create jobs that are here in america that are going to create good-paying jobs that create things that people will consume here in it country. let's do something
.s. economy back into a recession. both congress and the white house are trying to make a deficit reduction deal to avoid the financial chaos. and president obama's reverting to some campaign mode right now to try to make sure things are done his way. our white house correspondent dan lothian is joining us now with new information. what are you learning, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, while senior members of the administration including secretary geithner, chief of staff jack lou also top advisor meeting with -- the president himself trying to sell his vision to the public, but some say it's not a winning strategy. it doesn't take a gps to find the way to the fiscal cliff. much more difficult, finding the off ramp. at the president's first meeting with congressional leaders more than a week ago, there was a sense of optimism. >> my hope is is that this is going to be the beginning of a fruitful process. >> reporter: there was a follow-up phone call with house speaker john boehner, but a much different approach this week. the president's calendar is packed with sales pitches to the public, wh
the typical washington show game and take a few bills. if we want to cut the budget deficit we have to look at everything that's been passed and make decisions against each of those. if obama-care is the most important policy considered its survives. if there are other things being considered it doesn't survive. that's the only way to approach cliff that's running out very quickly. rick: if there is a deal spending cuts have to be put on the table and obama-care cost a lot of money. >> that's not true. it cuts the deficit in a 10-year period and even more so over 20 years. john boehner said in his own op-ed that he tried two different ways to get rid of obama-care, going to the supreme court and in the election. they tried 33 times to repeal obama-care in the congress and failed all 33 times. the bottom line is now we have obama-care. it is the law of the lands. we need to take the off the table and focus on the bush tax cuts which american voters decided they want to keep for people under $250,000 and they want to get rid of for people making more than $250,000. rick: obama-care lowers the
president was here if we let the cuts go in else places, there will be $560 billion cut in the deficit but a 4% cut in the gdp throwing us technically right into recession. is that you're belief if we don't do anything between now and january 1st this country will go into recession, jared? >> it is my belief if we go over the cliff and stay over the cliff. if we're able to hammer out a deal, even if that deal isn't completely stamped and approved on january 1st, there is the possibility of a very temporary trip over the fiscal slope, if you will, and then a reversal. but if we go over the cliff and stay over the cliff i'm pretty sure we'd be looking at recession. >> what about the impact on world markets and money markets in new york, et cetera, et cetera, what would it do about the confidence of the united stated' government ability to deal with the fiscal matters? if we go over the cliff in any way? >> yes. if you look at those markets today, you'll see they're pricing in a solution. that's why treasury bills have a yield of 1.6%, historical low. if those markets believed, as i descr
to the current debt or the deficit. social security is something that needs to be shored up. it's relatively easy to do compared to the other -- compared to the other problems, but we need to take a balanced approach to the other problems. this idea that we can just -- you know, the american people didn't believe the republican party's nominee who said we can just get rid of some of these deductions. we can get rid of some of the loopholes. that's not going to work. >> i don't understand the, frankly, the contortions being taken by some republicans to avoid raising the tax rate even a point or two at this point. can you explain why it's so important not to raise the rate at all even if it means getting rid of all sorts of deductions? >> because i think you have to say before you raise the rates and say, hey, everyone needs to pay more, we need to look at things we can do to flatten the code, to grow the economy, why would you tell people they have to pay more, small businesses, individuals, before -- >> make them pay more by getting hatch the deductions. >> it makes it flatter and fairer and supp
the deficit problem. >> the president has made clear that he will not sign a bill that extends the bush era tax cuts for those make mortgage than $250,000. >> billionaire warren buffett, an obama ally today wrote an editorial in "the new york times," calling for a higher minimum tax for the wealthy. >>> a shake-up in the middle east in politics today as an israeli moderate resigns. israeli defense minister ehud barack abruptly quit politics today, saying he'll only finish out his term. the obama administration had embraced him as a moderate influence on benjamin netanyahu's hard-line policies. meanwhile, a leader of hamas is warning that a fragile ceasefire in gaza could flare back into violence if negotiators don't come to agreement quickly. negotiations have to proceed through egyptian messagers because israel and the united states consider hamas a terrorist organization. >>> still ahead here at 5:00, it's a distinction that universities don't want. the bay area school, though, near the top of this dubious list. >>> and a blockbuster acquisition that never was. google tied to a takeover d
address the fundamental problem and driver of federal deficits and debt. and that's reforming these entitlement programs that are on an unsustainable path right now. >> so but remember the president also said when he extended the 35% tax rate for the upper income for those making more than $250,000 a year, he says -- he said then that was the last time he was going to do it. it was a one-shot deal. he wasn't going to do it anymore. and as you know he ran his re-election campaign on the notion he was going to increase the tax rates from 35% to 39.6% for those people making more than $250,000 a year. you think he's likely to blink on that? >> you know, i don't know. i hope he is at least willing to work with republicans. republicans are open for business up here. if he wants to bring entitlement reform into this discussion -- and you made the comment or showed dick durbin's comment this morning about that would be too hard to do. well, all the work's been done. you've had simpson bolls, a lot of work out there has been done. we know what the issues are and what it's going to tak
could be slapped with new taxes and the state could be thrown into a $11 billion deficit. >> house of representatives could sleet next week. it would expand the number of visas for science and technology students from other countries and make it easier for those students to bring the families to the u.s. house proposal would allow family members to come to the u.s. one year after they applied for the green cards. they say it is a bill to a stepping stone of immigration reform. opponents say the increase for visas for technology student would be upset by eliminating other visa programs. >> it is expected to top the agenda when president obama welcomes mexico's president-elect to the white house this week. he will return to mexico's institutional revolutionary power to party after 12 years when he takes office december 1st. he pushed more nor economic reforms and including overhauls of energy and tax laws. >>> supreme court could decide whether to take up the issue of gay marriage this week. the court is set to hold a closed door conference on friday where they can decide whether the
to come to an agreement on deficit reduction. if they don't, automatic tax increases and spending cuts will go into effect january 1st. both parties say they are ready to compromise but still no real progress has been made. >>> 7:33. one bay area hospital demanding to be reimbursed by the los angeles dodgers for the treatment it gave to bryan stow, the giants' fan brutally beaten in l.a. brian flores is live at san francisco general hospital with more. >> reporter: hi, dave. san francisco general hospital is seeking a $1.2 million medical reimbursement from the dodgers for medical care of bryan stow. the hospital went to -- hospital went to u.s. bankruptcy court in order to seek permission for this. now, stow who continues to receive around-the-clock rehabilitation treatment, initially received brain trauma care at san francisco general for about four months after the alleged beating. stow was brutally attacked in the parking lot of dodgers' stadium while watching the game back in march of 2011. since then, the hospital and essentially taxpayers had to foot the bill for medical care. b
something about the $16 trillion deficit, i think the bottom is going fall out of the dollar, totally. >> greta: what has been the -- when you asked to be paid in gold, the answer was what? >> they got, quoted opinions from a progressive pragmatic judge says the constitution says states will pay their debts in gold and silver doesn't mean that. they said that hey, they will wire my payment, my payroll, by wages, they'll wire where ever i want them to. i intend to wire where they'll send me gold and silver dollars for pay. >> greta: so that is taken care of? it's got an extra step or they can write you a check and you can go buy gold if you wantedded. you can get your gold, you can get your gold, right? >> yes. i'll end up getting gold and silver coins, yes. >> greta: anyone else agreeing with you? joining suit? anyone else in the legislature? >> there are a few others agreeing with me, but none have come out and been willing to put their, expose themselves as much. >> greta: what do you attribute the decline to? do you blame it on washington? is there anything in particular you identi
to the united states. that is why we've had trillions of dollars in trade deficits with china. managers of the trade policy with china, democrats and republicans, i think are guilty of real political malpractice on a large scale. >> greta: what is the chinese viewpoint of what they're doing vis-a-vis north korea? >> almost any country, chinese goes back than our memory. because of the great war, many of the invasions of china have come by bypassing the great wall, along north korea. and... also, the japanese intend to conquer asiana started in korea. so china, korea is an extremely sensitive point. what i think the chinese would like best is an outcome would be a nonnuclear, peaceful, north korea. they would not want a unified korea because it would seem that the high-tech korea and yellow ribbon with modern weapons would resurrect his storeal cal threats in their minds. also for them, the korean war as the image they thought as a symbolic significance. they took on the united states when they were very weak and came out from their point of view, achieving their effectiveness. >> greta:
there particularly considering the deficit they overcame. that is the sporting life for a friday night. should be interesting come sunday. a game you will see on channel 2. looks like kapernick at quarterback and it'll be a different story there in new orleans. loud crowd, in a dome, enemy territory we'll see how they do then and then we'll really have a controversy. >> if he plays well, yeah, thank you mark. >> thank you so much for trusting ktvu news. >> we'll have the latest on the conditions of the family members involved in that horrible crash in palo alto. they're here tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. and we're always here for you on ktvu.com and mobile ktvu.
spending on social programs. >> entitlement reform is the only way we will really get the debt and deficit under control and we have to take it on. >> reporter: without a compromise, devastating across the board spending cuts and tax increases threaten to crush the economic recovery. on captiol hill, the battle lines are drawn for a showdown, a fiscal cliff hanger. that uncertainty is putting a damper on the shopping season that could be helping the economy. brian moore, nbc news, washington. >>> former hp executive and republican political activist says the nation's wealthy need to know they will need to pay more. >> taxing the wealthy is not a process of addressing our great opportunities and challenges. so, as uncommon as it is for republicans to say we will put revenue on the table and i think john boehner was crystal clear that revenue is on the table. the president needs to say here's my grand vision. >> she says the president should focus on addressing the issues that would jump start small business and encourage entrepreneurs. >>> the nhl lockout turned ten weeks old and business s
deficits it, to streamline our tax system. to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> the problem with that strategy is that republic leaders are insisting that they don't want to take a framework for spending cuts down the road in exchange for tax changes now. they want it all done at the same time so that they can be sure that if taxes are going up on the rich, that in fact some of those spending cuts to bring down the debt will actually materialize. it might make it more likely to go of 00 cliff even though the president insisted today he thinks there will be a deal within weeks, shep. >> shepard: as for extending tax cuts for middle class americans it sounds like there is some agreement on that matter. >> it sounds like some republicans rank and file republicans are starting to turn away a little bit from speaker john boehner. tom coal rank and file member. is he part of the leadership but from oklahoma and basically said today extend them for the large majority for the middle class and come back and fight it out in january instea
into an 11 billion-dollar deficit. economists economists predict it would throw the economy into chaos triggering another recession. . many to 90% of california residents would see taxes go up. >> the cliff could also endanger the future of charities. nonprofit organizations are telling washington they can't survive if their funding is slashed. congress is considering a proposal that would cut from 35 to 28% the amount wealthy americans could write off in donations. >> a 1% decline in giving to american higher education would result in a loss of $300 million a year to colleges and universities. >> they have launched a new lobby including a website asking charities to contact their members of congress. >> the turkeys that didn't go to the thanksgiving table will be dished up because of the south of market store. more than 200 of their unsold fresh turkeys were frozen and donated to saint anthony's. they provide food for homeless, seniors and the working poor. they said that the need for food is still greater than ever, not just on the holidays. >> we can use this throughout novembe
lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction in a fair and balanced impossible way will be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong the economy as a plan to go south and it will be much more difficult for us to balance our budgets and deal with our deficits because if the economy is not strong that means more money is going out and things like unemployment insurance and less money is coming and. it actually makes our deficit worse. we need to get this right. i need help from the american people. close on members of congress's facebook wall used twitter. we have a few things to get done and we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically i don't think will get it done tomorrow. but if everybody here goes out of their way to make their voices heard and spread the word to your friends and family and co- workers and neighbors, i am confident we will get it done. we will get america back on track and not just heard next year but for many years to come. thank you everybody. >> (cheers & applause) >> we will see if the compromise will in fact happen. the time is 120 9 ft. an
, here's a fact. the president has on the table a proposal that reduces the deficit by $4 trillion. that is substance. so he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fumes at national airport. he has actively put forward a plan. >> okay. welcome back to "morning joe." welcome back. christmas is coming. >> all right. >> can you believe it? >> yeah, the christmas tree. it's looking beautiful. harold ford jr. is still with us and co-founder of the no labels organization, market mckinnon, also with us, "fortune" magazine's leigh gallagher. mark, good to see you. jeff zucker. >> a struggling -- >> taking over cnn. >> looking to jz. >> jeff zucker to run the joint. >> that would be interesting. >> smart guy if see what happens. all right. well, good, good. so how is our republican party -- so mark mckinnon, it's been a very, very rough month for you as a republican. you haven't shaved since the election. >> ah. >> you're not -- >> looking very handsome. >> you're not brushing your hair. >> well. >> your scarves look a little out of touch with the rest of your outfit like this
the deficit. let's have a comprehensive approach here that is a serious approach, no more kicking the can down the road. let's do it for real this time. >> fewer contortions usually better. i think we can all agree on that. anna navarro, great to see you any time of day. >>> all right, guys, here's the score card for the no tax pledge. 238 house members and 41 senators have signed the pledge. of those, only three are actually democrats and two of those three democrats will be out of office in january. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> so the heated debate over the possible elimination of susan rice as secrety of state appears to be cooling off. you'll
international and irskin bowles are amongst those scheduled to attend. half the bowls simpson deficit planned and laid out own formula to save $2 trillion. it is clear republicans like his ideas which would generate $800 billion in revenue through tax reform. meanwhile so much tax reform about allowing the bush tax cuts to allow the wealthy tox expire cost $9.69 billion a day to run. estimated additional revenue from allowing the bush tax cuts to expire would generate an average of $82.4 billion a year. so the money saved would run the government for 8 and a half days, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel live in our newsroom. warning from the white house tonight. it says americans who may do less holiday shopping this year because they are worried about possible tax hikes in january. if we do go off the cliff, the white house is predicting more serious consequences for the entire economy. a lot of details here and they are coming up inside fox report. well, just hours remain in what is expected to be the biggest online shopping day ever. the research firm core score predicts americans will spend $
've been working to develop a deficit reduction plan. let me just ask you how you feel right now. 11 days since the president's met with congressional leaders face-to-face, do you think there needs to be more meetings like that right now? >> well, i think the president is doing the right thing. he's got to make the case to congress and the american people. not only of the dire consequences if we go over the cliff, but actually the tremendous upside. and one of the things we don't focus on enough, if we get a real deal, the amount of private capital that will come off the sidelines, invest in this country, we look pretty darn good compared to the faltering economy in europe, the slowdown in china. you know, this could actually be the biggest job generator of anything that's been talked about recently. >> one thing i'm confused by and maybe concerned by also, though, is something that you know well. that the outlines of a deal are pretty clear. there are different options, there are choices, there are tweaks around the edge, but the outlines of the deal are there. and two weeks ago, everyon
, is hurting our own federal deficit. so i think scott walker is someone who can say, look, i've done this, it was not easy, and i succeeded. as far as democrats are concerned, it's really a far less wide-open race, i think, than with republicans, simply because you have this hillary clinton decision out there, whether she does or doesn't. if she doesn't, i think you might have some democrats saying, you know, we won with the senator the last timing, but that's really, really unusual. governors are good. and martin o'malley of maryland, brian schweitzer of montana are two possibilities. >> greta: i think governor o'malley, a big choice, obviously someone people have their eyes on, but also cory booker, a mayor on the democratic side from newark, new jersey. we'll see a lot of corey booker. on the republican side, a woman, governor, suzanna martinez from the state of new mexico. i think she's someone to keep our eye on, because i think her speech at the republican national convention was one that wowed somebody. >> open races on both sides, which makes it fun. >> or joe biden. >> greta: tha
, the deficits are going to go even higher. >> oh, yeah. even a maximum deal, i think, all of us would agree is not going to happen. simpson-bowles is not going to go through. even that would not be commensurate with the question. and i think what exacerbates this is every day that passes, the president works on one kind of clock. and everybody else invested in the system works on a different one. the president's clock is now just ticking toward history. everybody else is ticking toward the next election. both in '14 and in '16. and the human reality of politics is that as he starts to think more long term, everybody else is going to be imprisoned, if you will, or trapped, constrained by having to go back and getting re-elected. >> let me stop you for one second. you're a historian. i am a politician by trade when it comes to this stuff. and i can tell you the clock is actually, in my opinion, the clock is actually ticking fastest for the president. because at some point, the republicans are going to pick themselves up off the ground, and they're going to say, wait a second. i got 78% in my
billion a year and would pay ian volving credit but it doesn't touch our deficit or balance our budget and the other thing that is important they have to get something in return. we'll put it up on the clinton rates and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aapparently the president of the united states. the week after thanksgiving nothing is scheduled. but we understand that the top aides are working together to do something. who is leading the charge for the white house? tim geithner. it is interesting, in the beginning, during the confirmation it was revealed he did not file taxes properly and people say is he qualified to be the treasury of the secretary. according to the wall street journal. they work with him and like him. and jack lu who did it last t
. >> short-term what's on the table? >> what we need to put on the table in short-term is actual deficit reduction. we can do that through mandatory spending cuts in other areas. we can do it through the tax revenue that the president has called for. i think for instance, speaker of the house decided today to call the measure passed by the bipartisan senate to protect all families making $250,000 or less from any income tax increase december 31st, that would put enough revenue on the front end of this conversation to move us toward a solution. >> but so far i hear from you, in the short-term, no entitlements are on the table. >> only the medicare part of it, i want to be very careful. this means so much and we saw what a mess was made of it by paul ryan's budget, where the actual future of medicare was in doubt with his premium support plan. we don't want to go near that. we want to make sure that medicare, at the end of the day, is a program that is solvent, and we can count on it for generations 20 come. >> so if i'm a republican lawmaker watching this interview i'm saying, okay, he ba
deficit. and i know we have seen this morning also several editorial writers indicate the same, that it is important that we put these drivers of the deficit on the table and include them as part of any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the speaker said, we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something that we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. we still believe that it is most important for us to address the economic situation in this country where so many people are out of work. and that's why we take the position and believe strongly that increasing marginal rates is income tax rates is not the way to produce growth and to put people back to work. but we have not seen any good faith effort on the part of this administration to talk about the real problem that we're trying to fix. i'm told that mr. bolz, some of us will meet with him later today, has said earlier this morning that there's been no serious discussion by the white house on entitlements on medicare and medicaid. this has to be a part of this agreement or else we
president obama was first elected he talked about how to bring down the deficit and campaign promise to cut it in half and he would do it by focusing on entitlement reform. >> steve: there is the national debt right now. >> gretchen: why doesn't he bring the people to the table and say dick dishin. let's put it all on the table and let's talk about them instead of going out on air force one and getting people to use twitter >> chris: the american society of pensional they have a warning called. if congress does change yourr tax rate, there is a possibility that you might have big changes to your 401 k. last time congress made changes in congress. 70 percent of the 401 k contributions droppped and the worry is people will stop putting in and we'll stop save that is never good. >> brian: we are not supposed to be able to tax that. and we'll be able to get it out when we are 81 years old. and the other stories making news. brand new video out of syria show rebels shooting down a military helicopter. you can hear them chanting allah is great. and the chopper plunges to the ground and first time
help the deficit. warren buffett can help them out. lori rothman and melissa francis with more coming up. dagen: the market is up, that is good. good afternoon read >> pushing for middle-class tax cuts without any spending concessio concessions, president obama to meet with business leaders on the fiscal cliff after speaking just last hour. we'll ask lou dobbs that he thinks ceos will help to make deals happen. >> now washington is looking at the one sacred mortgage deduction, maybe get rid of it to help heal the budget crisis. >> charlie gasparino on the future of the firm. time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes, before the new york stock exchange, nicole petallides on the floor. a deal is possible by christmas. >> hoping to get some positive comments from john boehner. he is optimistic. a nice little boost. from negative to positive to the session highs, no 50 points away from dow 13,000 once again. the dow once again up 73 points. you have a lot of winners. the banking index is still under some pressure, but retailers are really stealing the show. many are doing well for a varie
in an opinion piece this week that the president's health care reform must be included in deficit negotiations. >>> before you tell your kids a story of christmas, listen up. the pope is out with a new book, and it debunks a lot of details about jesus' birth. more on that later on this hour. >> here on the help desk we're talking about paying down debt and saving for the future. with me this hour are greg olson and carmen. greg, this question is for you. suzanne told us the more she spends on paying off her debt, the less she has to save. >> how do we balance between saving for the future and paying down some credit card debt? >> you know, those bills come in, and you see that debt, and your eyes just pop out of your head. >> it's an easy question, but i'm very glad she asked it because it's something that most people get wrong. unless you have an introductory rate or you're paying a sfwler 0% introductory rate and have the ability to transfer that in the future, low credit card debt rates are considered 12% right now. show me where you can get an investment that's going to net on an after tax
, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security sed aside. doesn't add to the deficit. but when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more and more years. >> congressman bill pascrell is a democrat from new jersey. thank you for talking with us. >> soledad, how are you this morning? >> i'm really well, thank you. i've had many, many days off. what are the democrats willing to give? you heard dick durbin there. tick off for me and be specific, what are democrats willing to give on in this negotiation? >> well, i think the senator's absolutely correct, we need to compromise. there's no question about that. and we will not, however, in any way, shape or form, jeopardize the planned benefits for social security. i mean that's kind of installed in the american people. we changed social security over the years in order to meet the demands that the program insists upon. we will do that. but we'll do that in a bipartisan fashion. >> okay, so compromise. social security is off the table. medicare, walk me through what a
to see them try different things. first of all, let's recognize the fact that we had the deficits right now as a result of obama's budget. that's $5.3 trillion. that's in his budget. he signed that. we have a lot of the programs that should be undone. give you an example, we had a democrat president back in the '90s, bill clinton, while we had a republican majority in the house and the senate. we did welfare reform. we put the work back into welfare and it was tremendously successful. we decreased the welfare rolls. now, obama's reversed that. now we have it's gone up, the food stamp program now gone up from 28 million families to 47 million. that's just one of the things that can be reversed, that got news this mess to start with. >> gretchen: but senator, why does it appear -- and obviously the election was a result of it -- why does it appear that president obama wins the pr campaign on this entire discussion? >> well, gretchen, i represent oklahoma. he hasn't won up there. >> gretchen: but he's winning it acrossment country. >> well, i know, he's a very persuasive person. that doesn
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